Hizb-ut-Tahrir

How do you stop adverse legistlation and actions?

If the BNP were engaged in an area to be elected and if one of the promises was to close down the Mosques, what would you do? The HT answer is nothing, as they did not spend any effort building them in the first place. However, if the BNP campaigned like David Cameron to ban the party – you would see them move to hold hands with Clare Short or even George Galloway.


(Yusuf) Again, HTB, based on your logic, should be encouraging people to vote to stop the advent of a Tory government.

Why do you think HTB do not agree with voting, if it is beneficial to their future here?

(Yamin) Again you are not answering the point made about closing the Masjid campaign, and how you would address that.

Well HTB do not agree with voting because they follow the weaker opinion (possibly minority opinion) that it is haram! I don’t understand your question. You do not consider voting as halal, so why would you ask the Muslims to vote in a particular direction!

(Yusuf) I am still waiting for your hukm shar’I discussion on what prompted you to change your mind.

My point was, you claim we jump through hoops in order to stop the ban, well why don’t we take part in an anti-Tory campaign as that would stop a future ban?  Your claim does not hold water.  I am unclear about whether you feel we are motivated by benefit or the hukm shar’I?  Which is it, you can’t have your cake and eat it.

(Yamin) I still have no answer how would you stop adverse legislation against the Muslim community –  An example was given but no answer.

You act for your party benefit within your parameters, voting is one of those.As for you convieniantly jumping about what prompted to change my mind, read my earlier posts, how I have argued in favor of voting or against the viewpoint that it is forbidden. Keep that discussion on those earlier threads.